Legislature(2021 - 2022)BARNES 124

04/15/2022 09:00 AM House LABOR & COMMERCE

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09:05:07 AM Start
09:06:42 AM Board of Veterinary Examiners
09:21:05 AM HB405
09:55:20 AM HB406
10:07:06 AM HB407
10:25:24 AM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
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+ Consideration of Governor’s Appointees: Board TELECONFERENCED
of Examiners in Optometry - Kathleen Rice;
Board of Certified Real Estate Appraisers -
Valery Kudryn; Board of Certified Direct-Entry
Midwives - Hannah St. George; Real Estate
Commission - Chad Stigen and Devon Thomas;
Board of Social Work Examiners - Gabriel King;
Board of Veterinary Examiners - Ciara Vallaro
*+ HB 405 ESTABLISHMENT OF TRUSTS TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Testimony <Invitation Only> --
*+ HB 406 MORATORIUM ON TRUSTS/PROPERTY ACQUISITION TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Testimony <Invitation Only> --
*+ HB 407 PROHIBIT COMMERCE WITH RUSSIA TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Testimony <Invitation Only> --
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
+= SB 174 ALLOW NATURAL HAIRSTYLES TELECONFERENCED
Scheduled but Not Heard
                  HB 405-ESTABLISHMENT OF TRUSTS                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:21:05 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  SPOHNHOLZ  announced  that  the  next  order  of  business                                                            
would   be  HOUSE   BILL  NO.   405,  "An   Act   relating  to   the                                                            
establishment  of  trusts; requiring  the  filing of  certain  trust                                                            
information; and requiring compliance with a federal law."                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  SPOHNHOLZ  noted  that HB  405  is part  of a  package  of                                                            
bills  the committee  is considering  regarding  Russian  investment                                                            
in Alaska.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:21:21 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  FIELDS introduced  HB  405 on  behalf of  the House  Labor                                                            
and  Commerce  Standing  Committee,  sponsor.    He  stated  that  a                                                            
request  was  put in  for  this  legislation  shortly  after  Russia                                                            
invaded  Ukraine, at  which time  people started  asking  themselves                                                            
about  their roles  as citizens  in supporting  the  free people  in                                                            
Ukraine   and  ensuring  that   Putin  and   his  allies  were   not                                                            
inadvertently  being  given  access  to resources  that  they  would                                                            
use to  wage war  on Ukraine.    The idea  of the  bills before  the                                                            
committee  today,   he  explained,  is  to  ensure  that   oligarchs                                                            
aligned  with  Putin or  Putin's  family  are  not able  to  shelter                                                            
wealth  or generate  wealth  in Alaska.   Two  of the  bills are  on                                                            
trusts  and  property  and  one  is  on  preventing   offloading  of                                                            
Russian  imports  at  Alaska   ports.    He  deferred  to  Mr.  Evan                                                            
Anderson of his staff to provide details on the bill.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:22:53 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
EVAN  ANDERSON,  Staff, Representative   Zack Fields,  Alaska  State                                                            
Legislature,  provided  a  PowerPoint  presentation   titled  "House                                                            
Bill  405"  on behalf  of  the House  Labor  and  Commerce  Standing                                                            
Committee,  sponsor.    He displayed  the  second  slide,  "HB  405:                                                            
Establishment  of trusts,"  and stated  that the  bill would  update                                                            
Alaska law  to ensure trusts  in Alaska will  not be used to  shield                                                            
assets  of  Russian  oligarchs   or other   enemies  of  the  United                                                            
States.    He  said  the  bill  would  ensure  state  trust  law  is                                                            
consistent   with  federal  transparency   requirements   and  would                                                            
provide  clarity   for  industry  as  well  as  state   and  federal                                                            
regulators moving forward.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. ANDERSON  discussed  the graphic  on the third  slide, "What  is                                                            
a trust?"   He explained  that the  graphic is  visual depiction  of                                                            
the  complex web  of  relationships  formalized  by a  legal  trust.                                                            
He  said a  basic  trust is  a  three-way  arrangement.   A  settlor                                                            
puts  assets   into  a  trust  which   is  managed  by  a   trustee,                                                            
typically  a lawyer, on behalf  of beneficiaries.   One of  the many                                                            
types  of trusts  is a  discretionary trust  where  the trustee  has                                                            
discretion  to decide who  gets what, when.   The beneficiaries  can                                                            
argue  that   until  they   receive  a   distribution  they   aren't                                                            
entitled  to any of  the trust assets  because it  is all up  to the                                                            
trustee;  the  assets have  been  given  away  by the  settlor,  but                                                            
nobody  is  entitled to  them  yet.   So,  Mr.  Anderson  continued,                                                            
they  are in  what's considered  ownerless  limbo,  ringfenced  from                                                            
tax, from  creditors, or from  the rule of  law.  He clarified  that                                                            
most  of the  people  with trusts  in Alaska  are  law-abiding  U.S.                                                            
citizens  who deserve  to plan  their estates  and  set assets  into                                                            
trusts for their family members.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. ANDERSON  spoke  from the fourth  slide, "History  of Trusts  in                                                            
Alaska," which read as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
   • Prior to the Alaska State Constitution, trust law                                                                          
     traces back to England in the Middle Ages                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
   • 1959  1998: trust in Alaska operated as they do in                                                                       
     the vast majority of states                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
   • 1998: Alaska became the second state in the country to                                                                   
     enact super-trust laws                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
   • 1998     2021: Alaska initially captured national                                                                        
     investment.  However,  other  states joined  South Dakota                                                                  
     &  Alaska    including  Nevada,  Delaware, and  Wyoming                                                                    
     enacting  new  laws to  expand the  authority  of trusts.                                                                  
     Increased   competition   led  to  many   of  the   larger                                                                 
     accounts leaving the state                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
   • In October 2021, a series of leaks revealed that                                                                         
        Alaska & five other U.S. states have attracted vast                                                                     
       sums of wealth and could be sheltering funds for the                                                                     
     globe's most violent and corrupt criminals                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR.  ANDERSON compared  Alaska's  trust laws  to  others around  the                                                            
U.S.  and  the  globe.    He  showed  the fifth  slide,   "Financial                                                            
Secrecy  Index,"  and  stated  that  the  Financial   Secrecy  Index                                                            
(FSI),  prepared   by  the  Tax  Justice  Network,   is  a  globally                                                            
recognized  measure  of how  secrecy  laws impact  global  financial                                                            
flows.   He said  the orange color  indicates  the locations  of the                                                            
best  measure  of secrecy  and  thereby the  most  global  financial                                                            
flow.    In 2022,  he  related,  the  U.S.  was  second  behind  the                                                            
Cayman  Islands,  with  South  Dakota,  Alaska,  Nevada,  [Delaware,                                                            
and Wyoming] being the main contributors to that placement.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. ANDERSON  turned  to the  chart on  the sixth  slide,  "Choosing                                                            
the  Correct  Jurisdiction:  An  Objective  Comparison,"  and  noted                                                            
that  the chart  is marketing  by the  Bridgeford  Trust Company,  a                                                            
private   firm  based   in   South  Dakota   that   publishes   this                                                            
comparison  information  on its website;  Alaska  is number four  on                                                            
this  list.    He said  Bridgeford   Trust  Company  specializes  in                                                            
marketing  South  Dakota  and  other  U.S.  states to  some  of  the                                                            
wealthiest families in Latin America.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR.  ANDERSON  proceeded  to  the  seventh  slide,  "Pandora  Papers                                                            
show  foreign money  secretly  floods U.S.  Tax havens.  Some of  it                                                            
is  tainted."   He stated  that  the 2021  Pandora  Papers reveal  a                                                            
small  slice  of  the   extent  to  which  American  companies   are                                                            
involved   in   global   tax   evasion,   money    laundering,   and                                                            
corruption.   He  said  one example  in the  Pandora  Papers is  the                                                            
story  of  Federico  Kong  Vielman  [eighth   slide],  a  Guatemalan                                                            
businessperson]  with  $13.5  million in  assets  held  in trust  in                                                            
South  Dakota, according  to  leaks.  Mr.  Kong  Vielman's palm  oil                                                            
company  was cited by  the U.S.  government for  hiring workers  for                                                            
inadequate  pay with inadequate  safety protection  and his  company                                                            
was also  named  as a contributor  to  toxic pollutants  in a  local                                                            
river.    While Guatemalan  courts  acted  on  the  other  companies                                                            
named  in that  citation as  causing  the pollution,  he  continued,                                                            
they did not act against the Kong Vielman family.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. ANDERSON  moved to the  nineth slide,  "Global Reform  Efforts."                                                            
He  stated  that  despite  the  very  real  possibility   that  U.S.                                                            
trusts  are   being  used  to  shelter   funds  for  oligarchs   and                                                            
dictators,  there  is some  good news.    The global  community  has                                                            
taken  major  steps, especially  in  the  last  10 years,  to  enact                                                            
reforms,  he continued.    The Financial  Action  Task Force  (FATF)                                                            
issued  recommendations  in 2012.   Initially  an intergovernmental                                                             
initiative  of the  G7  countries in  1989,  this intergovernmental                                                             
organization   has  grown   to  now  include   39  global   members,                                                            
including  the U.S.   Its recommendations  set up  a framework  that                                                            
gives  Alaska something  to follow,  he  advised.   Alaska can  also                                                            
look  to  the European  Union  which  has  issued  five anti-money-                                                             
laundering  directives  over the  past  few decades,  most  recently                                                            
requiring  public disclosure  of  beneficial  ownership information                                                             
for trusts.   In  2018 the Bahamas  enacted  reforms, he  continued.                                                            
Showing  up  in the  Pandora  Papers  multiple  times, much  of  the                                                            
accounts  that left  the Bahamas  when the Bahamas  enacted  reforms                                                            
have moved  into  U.S. states,  many of  them South  Dakota.   As of                                                            
2020,  Mr.  Anderson  pointed  out,  17  of  the  least restrictive                                                             
jurisdictions  for trusts  anywhere in  the world  are U.S.  states.                                                            
That  is where  federal regulations  start  to come  in, he  stated.                                                            
In 2021,  the  Corporate Transparency  Act  was signed  into law  by                                                            
President  Biden.   Last month,  the  United Kingdom  (UK),  another                                                            
of  the most  permissive  places in  the  world for  trusts,  passed                                                            
the  Economic  Crime  (Transparency  &  Enforcement)  Act  following                                                            
the Russian invasion of Ukraine.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR.  ANDERSON  displayed the  tenth  slide,  "Which US  states  have                                                            
the  most trusts  in  the Pandora  Papers?"   He  said  it is  South                                                            
Dakota  by far,  and Alaska  is not  named on  the list  of the  top                                                            
five.   But  this is  not  a complete  picture  of the  problem,  he                                                            
continued.   It  is  just one  leak  and the  full extent  to  which                                                            
Alaska is involved is unknown.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. ANDERSON  concluded  with the  eleventh slide.   Regarding  what                                                            
these policies  have to do  with Russia and  its oligarchs,  he said                                                            
it is  known that  Russian President  Vladimir Putin  built his  war                                                            
effort  with  the profits  from  oil  and gas,  seafood,  and  other                                                            
trade  bids.    He  read  from  a  quote  by  Ian  Gary,   Executive                                                            
Director   of   the   Financial    Accountability   and    Corporate                                                            
Transparency   (FACT)  Coalition,   which  states:    "The   secrecy                                                            
currently  afforded   by the  U.S.   and  other  Western  legal  and                                                            
financial systems contributed to President Putin's empowerment."                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:31:29 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  FIELDS added  that Alaska's  trust laws  are currently  so                                                            
opaque  that  it wouldn't  be  known  if  oligarchs  are  sheltering                                                            
their assets in the state, and hence the need for legislation.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR SPOHNHOLZ reiterated that trusts are used by many law-                                                                 
abiding  citizens and the  intention of  HB 405 [and  HB 406  and HB
407]  is  to  address  those  who  are using  Alaska  as  a  way  of                                                            
avoiding the law.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KAUFMAN  said  he would  like  to see  more  clarity                                                            
around  the problem  stated  because  the  legislation  seems to  be                                                            
impugning  trusts.    One  person's  secrecy   is another   person's                                                            
privacy,  he continued, and  many of those  people are citizens  who                                                            
deserve privacy.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  FIELDS agreed  that most  people who use  trusts are  law-                                                            
abiding   citizens  that   are   using  trusts   for  appropriately                                                             
legitimate  reasons.   The goal,  he explained,  is  to ensure  that                                                            
the small  percentage  of law  breakers  don't exploit  a system  in                                                            
which  many law-abiding  people  participate.   He said  HB 405  and                                                            
HB  406 are  largely  transparency  requirements  that  would do  no                                                            
harm to everyone who is a law-abiding family trust holder.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:34:02 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  ANDERSON  provided  the  sectional  analysis  of  HB 405.    He                                                            
paraphrased  from  the  document  in  the  committee  packet  titled                                                            
"Sectional  Analysis  House Bill  405    Version A,"  which read  as                                                            
follows [original punction provided]:                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     *   Section    1.   AS   13.36.005(a)   amends   existing                                                                
     documentation   requirements   to  require   an  address,                                                                  
     either  business or residential  address,  as part of  the                                                                 
     initial court filing.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
       * Sec. 2. AS 13.36 is amended by adding a new section                                                                  
          that requires new trusts to file establishment                                                                        
     paperwork  with  the Department  of Commerce,  Community,                                                                  
     &  Economic  Development,   including  the  names  of  the                                                                 
     trustee,  the settlor,  the  beneficiary,  and the person                                                                  
     or  individual   filing  the  documentation.  DCCED   will                                                                 
     establish a fee for establishment.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     This  section affirms  the  confidential nature  of  trust                                                                 
     information.  Public  disclosure  of private  information                                                                  
     contained  within  trusts  is  unlawful.  DCCED  has  non-                                                                 
     disclosure   agreements  in  place  for  staff  in   other                                                                 
     departments  to  retain  confidentiality.  Non-disclosure                                                                  
     provisions  could  be expanded  to Division  of Banking  &                                                                 
     Securities     staff    handling    confidential     trust                                                                 
     information.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     This  section allows  DCCED to release  trust information                                                                  
     to  the  U.S.  Department  of  the  Treasury.  This  is  a                                                                 
     logical   next   step  for   protecting   Alaska's   trust                                                                 
     industry  in the  21st  century    all are  welcome  here,                                                                 
     except war criminals and terrorists.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     * Sec.  3. This section  provides for  an effective  date.                                                               
     This  bill will  not impact  trusts established  prior  to                                                                 
     its effective date.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  ANDERSON  pointed   out  that  a  draft  [proposed]   committee                                                            
substitute  (CS) has  been received,  so there may  be some  changes                                                            
to  present   to  the  committee   at  the   bill's  next   hearing.                                                            
Regarding  Section 1, he  said there have  been lengthy  discussions                                                            
with  the Division  of  Legislative Legal  Services  because,  under                                                            
existing  structures  in  Alaska statute,  no  address  is  required                                                            
for  filing   if  a  trust   does  not  have   a  business   address                                                            
associated  with it.  Family  trusts might  have nothing to  do with                                                            
a business,  he  continued, so  this seemed  like  a clear  loophole                                                            
that  was  easy  to  close.    Regarding  Section  2,  Mr.  Anderson                                                            
pointed   out  that  public   disclosure   of  private  information                                                             
contained  within  trusts  is unlawful  and  would  remain  unlawful                                                            
with the passage of HB 405.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:36:44 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  SPOHNHOLZ asked  Mr.  Anderson to  address Representative                                                             
Kaufman's question.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR.  ANDERSON  referred   to  the  nineth  slide  regarding   global                                                            
reforms  where some  jurisdictions  around the  globe are  requiring                                                            
public  disclosure of  beneficial  ownership information.   But,  he                                                            
advised,  this is  not the  intention  in HB  405 as  that would  be                                                            
going  further than  the  Corporate Transparency  Act,  federal  law                                                            
which  does  not require  public  disclosure  of  that information.                                                             
Rather,  he continued,  it creates  a central  registry through  the                                                            
U.S.   Department   of   Treasury,   so   there   is  no   risk   to                                                            
confidentiality of that information.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR SPOHNHOLZ began invited testimony on HB 405.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:37:44 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
RYAN  GURULE,   Policy   Director,  Financial   Accountability   and                                                            
Corporate   Transparency   (FACT)   Coalition,    provided   invited                                                            
testimony  in   support  of  HB  405.    He  noted  that   the  FACT                                                            
Coalition  is  a  nonpartisan  alliance   of  members  dedicated  to                                                            
standing  up  structural  reforms   to combat   harms  flowing  from                                                            
financial  secrecy   and  vulnerabilities  in  the  U.S.   financial                                                            
system  that   facilitate  money   laundering,  sanctions   evasion,                                                            
corruption, tax dodging, and illicit financial flows.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. GURULE  said the  Pandora Papers  offer  concrete evidence  that                                                            
the  U.S. is  a  singular  financial  jurisdiction,  an undesirable                                                             
status  that erodes  the  tax  bases of  the  U.S. and  its  allies,                                                            
undermines  U.S.  national  security,  compromises   U.S.  financial                                                            
markets,  and weakens  democracy in  the U.S. and  abroad.   He said                                                            
the effects  of these harms  manifest not  as academic concerns  but                                                            
as  direct  impacts  to  local  U.S.  communities.    The  financial                                                            
secrecy  afforded by  the U.S.  and its  allies,  he continued,  has                                                            
previously   enriched   and   empowered   potentially   adversarial                                                             
regimes,  including  Russian  President   Putin,  giving  his  inner                                                            
circle  a  backdoor  to  evade earlier   sanctions  and emboldening                                                             
their corrupt and criminal behavior.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR.  GURULE  related  that,  given  the  risks  posed  by  financial                                                            
secrecy,  the  Biden   Administration  and  bipartisan   efforts  in                                                            
Congress  have prioritized  bringing  greater transparency  to  U.S.                                                            
legal  entities  in  the  fight  against  corruption.   Dismantling                                                             
secretive  systems that  enable corrupt  actors and  tax dodgers  to                                                            
avoid  accountability  can  also  make  well-coordinated   sanctions                                                            
targeting  the wealth of  Putin and oligarchs  more effective  today                                                            
and make  it less  likely for  needing similar  retaliatory  efforts                                                            
against kleptocrats in the future.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR.   GURULE   specified  that   anonymous   shell   companies   and                                                            
arrangements  capable  of being  formed  or otherwise  investing  or                                                            
doing   business   in   the   U.S.,  pose   one   of   the   biggest                                                            
vulnerabilities  to  the U.S.  financial system.    He related  that                                                            
an  analysis  by  Global  Financial  Integrity   found  that,  until                                                            
recently  in all 50  states, more  personal  information was  needed                                                            
to obtain  a library  card  than to  establish a  legal entity  that                                                            
can be  used to  facilitate tax  evasion, money  laundering,  fraud,                                                            
and corruption.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. GURULE  stated that  the Pandora Papers  specifically  implicate                                                            
U.S.  trusts  as one  of  the  most significant   gaps in  the  U.S.                                                            
anti-money  laundering  regulatory regime.   Alaska,  he  continued,                                                            
has its  own sordid history  with commoditizing  financial  secrecy,                                                            
making the proposed reforms discussed today even more critical.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. GURULE  related that  in the 1990's,  struggling with  depressed                                                            
oil prices,  Alaska  was looking  for new  ways  to attract  outside                                                            
capital   investment.    From   that  position,   he  said,   Alaska                                                            
considered  and passed  changes to  its trust  laws first  suggested                                                            
by  a  New York  lawyer  that  would  push  the  state  far  outside                                                            
existing  trust laws  and  soon would  result in  Delaware,  Nevada,                                                            
and  South  Dakota following  Alaska  into  the  rabbit hole.    The                                                            
result,  he  continued,   is  a  competition  for  foreign   capital                                                            
seeking  effective   anonymity,  not  just  protection   for  future                                                            
claims against heirs.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. GURULE  said the  benefits of  this anonymity  for out-of-state                                                             
tax-dodgers,  corrupt  politicians,  and  others  seeking  to  avoid                                                            
public accountability  has  been obvious since  the start.   Whether                                                            
equivocal  and offsetting  benefits have been  realized by  Alaska's                                                            
citizenry  or that of  other states  that are  victims of the  race-                                                            
to-the   bottom    for   attracting    shadow   capital    is   more                                                            
questionable.    As international  tax  and  financial transparency                                                             
measures  have  begun  to  peel  back  secrecy  in  traditional  tax                                                            
havens,  he  continued,  cross-border  deposits  in  U.S.  financial                                                            
institutions,  often  held in  trust or  via other  legal  anonymous                                                            
vehicles, have substantially increased.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. GURULE  advised that it  is known from  the Pandora Papers  that                                                            
U.S.  trusts  are being  heavily  abused.   For  example,  the  same                                                            
secrecy afforded  by Alaska  created the impetus  for a known  human                                                            
rights'  violator to  relocate  his trust  assets  from the  Bahamas                                                            
to the  U.S.  The  Pandora Papers,  he noted, are  just one  leak of                                                            
data  and  should  not  be  viewed  as  indicative   of  the  entire                                                            
universe  of problematic  anonymous  U.S. investment  by corrupt  or                                                            
criminal  actors.   Rather, he  said, the  Pandora  Papers serve  as                                                            
an  indictment  on the  financial  secrecy  afforded by  U.S.  laws,                                                            
including those in Alaska.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. GURULE  related that  on 1/1/21 Congress  took steps to  address                                                            
threats   posed  by  anonymous   legal  entities   and  passed   the                                                            
bipartisan  Corporate   Transparency  Act  (CTA).     He  said  this                                                            
measure  requires corporations,  limited  liability  companies,  and                                                            
other similar  entities formed  or registering  to do business  in a                                                            
state  by a filing  with a  secretary  of state  or similar  office,                                                            
to  disclose  their  true,  natural  owner  to  a  secure  directory                                                            
housed and  maintained at  Treasury's Financial  Crimes Enforcement                                                             
Network (FinCEN).                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR.  GURULE  conveyed  that  the  FACT Coalition   previously  filed                                                            
comments  on  best  practices  for  establishing  the  directory  in                                                            
response   to  FinCEN's   first   proposed   rulemaking,   including                                                            
addressing  who should  file  disclosures,  when they  should  file,                                                            
what information  they should  provide, and  how certain  exemptions                                                            
should  be handled.   He said  FinCEN  has announced  that it  plans                                                            
to issue  a  second proposed  rulemaking  addressing  access to  the                                                            
directory,  including by  state, tribal  and  local law enforcement                                                             
agencies.   He  noted  that the  FACT Coalition  has  advocated  for                                                            
uncomplicated and complete access for authorized users.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR.  GURULE  pointed  out  that  the  application   of  the  CTA  to                                                            
certain  trusts  remains  unclear.   He  explained  that  for  those                                                            
trusts which  file only with  local courts,  or that do not  file at                                                            
all  in connection  with  formation  or other  key events,  such  as                                                            
relocating  to Alaska, the  CTA may apply  to varying degrees  based                                                            
on final rules when promulgated.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. GURULE  stated  that HB  405 takes  important  steps to  clarify                                                            
the  application  of  the  Corporate  Transparency   Act  to  trusts                                                            
administered  in  Alaska.   He said  HB 405  also  makes clear  that                                                            
Alaska  will have  ready  access  to the  information  necessary  to                                                            
ensure  that   its  trust  industry   is  attracting  the   type  of                                                            
investment  that does not  put Alaskan citizens  at risk of  greater                                                            
national  security  threats  or  rising  prices  contributed  to  by                                                            
global geopolitical conflicts.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. GURULE  offered  the FACT  Coalition's  support for  HB 405  and                                                            
Alaska's  efforts to pivot  from the secrecy  rat-race toward  being                                                            
a  singular leader  in  promoting  greater financial  transparency.                                                             
He  urged that  the bill  incorporate  five  policy recommendations                                                             
to ensure  that  HB 405  brings greater  transparency  to the  trust                                                            
industry  in Alaska in  a way that  does not  afford workarounds  to                                                            
bad actors  and helps  to bring about  an end  to the American  tax-                                                            
haven:   1.  At a minimum,  beneficial  ownership  reporting  should                                                            
apply  to  any  trust  governed  by  Alaskan  law,  administered  in                                                            
whole  or in  part  in Alaska  or by  an  Alaskan trustee,  or  that                                                            
otherwise  has situs  in Alaska.   Legacy  trusts  should be  timely                                                            
incorporated  into  the  regime, as  should  any  relocating  trust.                                                            
2. All  relevant  actors should  be covered.   A  strong  definition                                                            
of beneficial  owners  should look  to control  of trust  governance                                                            
and  assets  and  rights  to,  or  control  over,  distributions  of                                                            
trust  assets,  including  for  protectors,  trustees,  settlors  or                                                            
grantors,  and certain  beneficiaries.   3. The  bill should  create                                                            
a clear,  affirmative obligation  for Alaskan  trusts to file  under                                                            
the  CTA.     4.  The   bill  should  require   ongoing   reporting,                                                            
monitoring,  and  verification.   Changes  in  beneficial  ownership                                                            
should  be reported  in a timely  fashion, and  data best  practices                                                            
should   apply   to  the   collection,   storage,   and   authorized                                                            
dissemination    of   information   collected   under    the   bill.                                                            
Reporting   burdens  would   be  minimal   in  all   but  the   most                                                            
complicated  structures,   which are  likely  purposefully   opaque.                                                            
Employing  standardized, best  data practices  would further  reduce                                                            
reporting  costs.    5. Additional  secrecy  rights  should  not  be                                                            
created  by the  bill,  and appropriate  penalties  or distribution                                                             
prohibitions  should  be  considered  for any  party  that  provides                                                            
false  information,  directly   or  indirectly,  or  that  fails  to                                                            
provide required information.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  GURULE concluded  by  stating that  federalism  is made  better                                                            
when states  innovate  in ways that  reinforce  democracy, open  and                                                            
transparent  markets,  and  national  security.    The  opposite  is                                                            
true,  he   said,  when  states  compete   for  investment   through                                                            
financial   secrecy  to  lure  potentially   corrupt,  illicit,   or                                                            
criminal  capital.  Like  Congress, he continued,  the Alaska  State                                                            
Legislature  has an  important  role to  play in  ensuring that  the                                                            
Alaskan  and  U.S.  financial  systems  are  not  vehicles  for  tax                                                            
dodging,  corruption,  human  rights   abuses,  or  other  financial                                                            
harms.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:47:19 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  FIELDS  requested  that  Mr. Robert  Schmidt  address  the                                                            
potential  problems that could  be had with  such opacity of  trusts                                                            
and the risk for abuse.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  SPOHNHOLZ  requested  that Mr.  Schmidt also  address  the                                                            
fiscal note.   She recalled  Mr. Schmidt  stating that the  division                                                            
already  has  a  system   that  could  be  used  for   handling  the                                                            
transparency elements incorporated within HB 405.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:47:58 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ROBERT  SCHMIDT,  Director,  Division  of  Banking  and Securities,                                                             
Department   of  Commerce,  Community,   and  Economic  Development                                                             
(DEED), answered  questions  related to HB  405.  He specified  that                                                            
under  its current  role  the  Division of  Banking  and  Securities                                                            
regulates  trust  companies;  but  the division  does  not  regulate                                                            
trusts.    He  said  the division   performs  safety  and  soundness                                                            
examinations   of  trust  companies  under  Title   6,  the  banking                                                            
statutes.   If a trust has  assets on deposit  in a state  chartered                                                            
financial  institution,  he continued,  the division  also  performs                                                            
safety    and   soundness    examinations    of   those    financial                                                            
institutions  under  Title 6.   He  pointed  out that  the  division                                                            
does  not   examine,  register,  license,   approve,  or   otherwise                                                            
review  individual  trusts  which  are governed  by  Title  13.   He                                                            
said the  division appreciates  the concern  that Alaska trust  laws                                                            
may be  used inappropriately,   and that  he will  be speaking  with                                                            
the committee  next  week on HB  408 which  addresses that  concern.                                                            
He advised  that the committee  must also  balance and consider  how                                                            
trusts  are  being used  as  an estate  planning  tool  by  everyday                                                            
Alaskans.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:49:28 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TRACY  RENO,  Chief Financial  Examiner,  Division  of  Banking  and                                                            
Securities,   Department  of  Commerce,   Community,  and   Economic                                                            
Development  (DEED),  answered questions  related  to HB  405.   She                                                            
explained  that   the  division's  database  is  a  repository   for                                                            
information   under   which   electronic   documents   and   contact                                                            
information  can be saved.   She  said the division,  in looking  at                                                            
HB  405, may  need  to  consider and  research  some  other  things.                                                            
Regarding   the   Office   of   Foreign   Assets    Control   (OFAC)                                                            
requirements,  she  advised  that  it is  not  one-and-done  because                                                            
onboarding  must be  performed, certain  things  must be  identified                                                            
with  individuals,  and  when  trusts are  changed  or  amended  the                                                            
information  must  be updated.   She  further  advised  that if  the                                                            
division  is required to  check this information  against OFAC  or a                                                            
sanction   list   it  would   probably   necessitate   bringing   on                                                            
additional  vendors  to  check  those  lists  periodically   because                                                            
they  change  daily  if  not  hourly  depending   on  who  is  being                                                            
sanctioned,  countries  or individuals.    The division  can have  a                                                            
repository  to  hold  the  information,   she  continued,  but  more                                                            
research  will be  needed  if [the  legislature]  wants  more to  be                                                            
done, such  as reaching out  to OFAC to find  out what the  division                                                            
would have  to do,  how it would  be recorded,  and the  liabilities                                                            
for  employees  if there  is  failure  to identify  someone  on  the                                                            
sanction  list and  it  isn't recorded.   She  said  the bill  deals                                                            
with a  situation that  [the division]  should  be concerned  about,                                                            
but more work is needed to get into the details.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:51:35 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  FIELDS offered  his understanding  that if  HB 405  and HB
406  were  enacted   and  it  was  required  for  these   trusts  to                                                            
disclose  to the  department  who  their beneficiaries   are, if  an                                                            
oligarch  on a sanctions  list is identified,  the department  would                                                            
then  report  that  to  the  Treasury  Department,  and  it  is  the                                                            
Treasury Department that would take action to freeze the assets.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS.  RENO responded  that  that is  her unconfirmed  understanding.                                                             
She  said she  would  need to  speak  with  OFAC to  determine  what                                                            
steps  would need  to be  taken and  how and  when.   She  explained                                                            
that  [the  department]  does  not  currently   hold  that  personal                                                            
private  information  and report  it  to OFAC,  which  is under  the                                                            
U.S.  Department  of the  Treasury,  so  she  doesn't know  all  the                                                            
steps that would need to be in place for that to happen.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:53:08 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  SPOHNHOLZ  surmised  there would  be  some sort  of  risk-                                                            
based  analysis for  determining  which trusts  need  to be  checked                                                            
against the bad actors that are being looked for.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS. RENO  pointed  out that  HB 405 says  that every  trust that  is                                                            
established  will have to  file the paperwork  with the  department,                                                            
and the  department  would be running  the information  against  the                                                            
OFAC  list.  She  said every  trust  coming in  that the  department                                                            
is  holding  information  on  would  have  to  be  run periodically                                                             
through  the  database  and  through  the  sanctions   list  because                                                            
those  lists   change  daily,  so   she  assumes  it  would   be  an                                                            
automated system through a vendor.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR SPOHNHOLZ surmised it could be done on an annual basis.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS. RENO  answered  that she  doesn't know  the  specifics, but  she                                                            
thinks  an  OFAC requirement   is that  it  must  be done  every  so                                                            
often to  report it  within a certain  time period  so as to  not be                                                            
held liable for criminal penalty.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  SPOHNHOLZ said the  committee will  ask the department  to                                                            
follow up with answers to its questions.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:55:01 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  FIELDS  stressed  that there  is  a very  important  state                                                            
role because  if  Alaska doesn't  identify potential  oligarchs  who                                                            
might be  sheltering wealth  in the state,  then the federal  law is                                                            
rendered ineffective.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR SPOHNHOLZ concurred.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
[HB 405 was held over.]                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
Chad Stigen Application_Redacted.pdf HL&C 4/15/2022 9:00:00 AM
HLAC Confirmations 2022
Devon Thomas Application_Redacted.pdf HL&C 4/15/2022 9:00:00 AM
HLAC Confirmations 2022
Ciara Vollaro Application_Redacted.pdf HL&C 4/15/2022 9:00:00 AM
HLAC Confirmations 2022
Devon Thomas Resume_Redacted.pdf HL&C 4/15/2022 9:00:00 AM
HLAC Confirmations 2022
Gabriel King Application_Redacted.pdf HL&C 4/15/2022 9:00:00 AM
HLAC Confirmations 2022
Hannah St. George Application_Redacted.pdf HL&C 4/15/2022 9:00:00 AM
HLAC Confirmations 2022
Kathleen Rice Application_Redacted.pdf HL&C 4/15/2022 9:00:00 AM
HLAC Confirmations 2022
Valery Kudryn Application_Redacted.pdf HL&C 4/15/2022 9:00:00 AM
HLAC Confirmations 2022
Valery Kudryn Resume_Redacted.pdf HL&C 4/15/2022 9:00:00 AM
HLAC Confirmations 2022
HB 405 - Sponsor Statement.pdf HL&C 4/15/2022 9:00:00 AM
HB 405
HB 405 - Sectional Analysis.pdf HL&C 4/15/2022 9:00:00 AM
HB 405
HB 405 and HB 406_testimony_ATEP 4.13.22.pdf HL&C 4/15/2022 9:00:00 AM
HB 405
HB 406
HB 405 Supporting Document - Euro Parliament Resolution - 9-2021-0438.pdf HL&C 4/15/2022 9:00:00 AM
HB 405
HB 405 Supporting Document - Tax Justice Network Andres Knobel 033122.pdf HL&C 4/15/2022 9:00:00 AM
HB 405
HB 405 Supporting Document - Trust-Jurisdiction-Objective-Comparison.pdf HL&C 4/15/2022 9:00:00 AM
HB 405
HB 405 Supporting Document - ICIJ Will Fitzgibbon ADN 100422.pdf HL&C 4/15/2022 9:00:00 AM
HB 405
HB 406 - Sectional Analysis.pdf HL&C 4/15/2022 9:00:00 AM
HB 406
HB 406 - Sponsor Statement.pdf HL&C 4/15/2022 9:00:00 AM
HB 406
HB 406 Supporting Document - OFAC U.S. Department of the Treasury FAQs.pdf HL&C 4/15/2022 9:00:00 AM
HB 406
HB 406 Supporting Document - Sen Rubio support Magnitsky reauthorization.pdf HL&C 4/15/2022 9:00:00 AM
HB 406
HB 407 - Sectional Analysis.pdf HL&C 4/15/2022 9:00:00 AM
HB 407
HB 407 Supporting Document - Stateside Associates.pdf HL&C 4/15/2022 9:00:00 AM
HB 407
HB 407 - Sponsor Statement.pdf HL&C 4/15/2022 9:00:00 AM
HB 407
SB 174 Amendment 1_4.14.22.pdf HL&C 4/15/2022 9:00:00 AM
HL&C 4/18/2022 3:15:00 PM
SB 174
SB 174 Amendment 2_4.14.22.pdf HL&C 4/15/2022 9:00:00 AM
HL&C 4/18/2022 3:15:00 PM
SB 174
HB 406 Fiscal Note DNR.pdf HL&C 4/15/2022 9:00:00 AM
HB 406
HB 405 Fiscal Note DCCED.pdf HL&C 4/15/2022 9:00:00 AM
HB 405
HB 405 406 407 presentation_041522.pdf HL&C 4/15/2022 9:00:00 AM
HB 405
HB 407_presentation_4.15.22.pdf HL&C 4/15/2022 9:00:00 AM
HB 407
HB 405 Testimony_FACT Coalition_4.15.2022.pdf HL&C 4/15/2022 9:00:00 AM
HB 405